Hwasin: Controller of the Heart
What?
- It was the headline. It said, 'So in love.' - I just might tell on you.
What's wrong with her now?
What kind of show is this?
- Emperor of the night. - What's that?
I looked it up.
- I've got you now! - I am so scared.
- It was during a morning show. - I said it's not true!
- Reporter Bong. - This is Bong Tae Gyu.
I told the president I didn't want to perform anymore.
'You should go back to Thailand immediately.'
I am looking forward to it.
- A renewal every week. - On Tuesdays, Hwasin!
Today we have a very unique combination here, don't we?
You may easily wonder why we gathered them all here today.
It's hard to find a common denominator between them.
It's the same over here.
Where did Yoon Jong Shin go? Why he is avoiding me?
Why would he quit right after I joined?
[Gu Ra is complaining about his best friend quitting?!]
Hwasin's new MC. Welcome, Bong Tae Gyu.
[New MC Bong Tae Gyu]
Before we introduce the guests, let's talk about our new MC.
I talked with the PD on the phone and he told me Jong Shin resigned.
So I told him, 'Three MCs might not be enough. How about another one?'
That's why I recommended him, even though I don't even know what will happen to me.
- Gu Ra strongly recommended him. - Did you know about that?
I didn't know...
You should know about these things.
- Gu Ra highly recommended you. - And why did you recommend him?
When he was here last week, the main thing is that he laughed at everything I said.
'Mom, we did well today.'
[Laughing out loud whenever Gu Ra talked]
- No, that was a good question. - Wasn't it?
- That was a good question. - That's right!
When I have a chance later, I would like to work with him on TV.
Yes, that's a good idea.
[Dreams do come true?!]
Also, he doesn't look very different from Jong Shin either.
- He doesn't look different from Jong Shin. - And also, I --
Not so different.
I'm very lucky. When I read the comments people left about me...
- I don't usually but I read them this time. - What they did say?
They talked a lot about how I look.
'He looks familiar.'
I'm wearing glasses because the viewers might not like a sudden change.
I'd like you to look well on me since I wore these deliberately.
And there's something I feel I must tell you on air.
I told Hee Sun that I'm into cast iron cauldrons.
- Iron pots! - She bought me one.
- She bought you one? - Yes.
You're being inconsiderate.
- Then you should've brought some rice. - That's what I mean.
I got to make a hot pot soup. It tasted amazing because it held in the moisture.
He was our guest last week.
It's not anything important at all.
It's nothing interesting, so don't worry too much about it.
Don't get interested in it.
I thought I was sitting in the audience.
It's not that. Things are changing so fast here.
- I became an MC here last week. - A couple weeks ago.
A couple weeks ago and a week ago.
We continue to evolve every week.
One of you might do well and get to sit here instead of him.
- You never know. - I was sitting where Taec Yeon is sitting.
- That's what I mean. - He was sitting right there.
If you laugh a lot when I talk, you might get to sit beside me.
- As an intern MC. - So, he's an intern?
I love doing an episode like this because I get to be the only female here.
I know I'm married but I feel so excited.
Tough guys in their 20s, 30s and 40s --
But a guy in his 40s is living with someone in her 20s.
Everyone knows about it, don't they?
Yes, that is true.
No, Chang Hun, this is just how I entertain.
I've never even talked to him before.
- With Lee Chang Hun? - No, and I'm talking to him like this.
[Talking bluntly on their first meeting!]
Because this is entertainment.
I've always worked with people who have a sense of dignity.
[I've always worked with people who have a sense of dignity]
2PM is famous for ripping their clothes off.
But this time... something's missing?
Pardon?
Is that how you feel or is that a question for us?
No, mutually?
Doesn't it feel that way? I'd think you'd want to show off your muscles.
She told me she misses how 2PM used to be.
'Rip Tae Yeon.' That's your nickname, right?
Yes, it is.
But you came back so calmly...
And actually, there's something you're confused about.
People cheer when a young guy takes his shirt off.
But when you get old, you don't get to do it.
Isn't that true? So you should take your shirt off whenever you can.
- While you can? - Of course.
- Do that while you can... - When you get old, you won't be able to.
I came across this on a TV show.
Taec Yeon gets muscular if he works out for a month.
Chan Sung said he needs to work out four to five month to barely match him.
Yes, that's true.
He did research on every guest here.
Because I have nothing else to do...
They call it a 'hobby,' right?
I'm so excited because I finally got a job after a long time.
Sung Si Kyung, I hear that you're working out as well.
Not many people know this, but I work out a lot.
You... don't look that muscular.
I was going to say that I've got some muscle now, but they're here today.
They are so muscular, you look thin in comparison.
- But you've gotten much slimmer. - Thank you.
Didn't you say before that you would like to have a son like Nichkhun?
Do you know what 'son' means?
He's lived in Korea for many years. Of course he knows.
- No, I was -- - You entertain in a strange way.
- I know what 'son' means. - Yes, a son. 'Son.'
I would like one like you.
When men look at Moon Geun Young or Park Bo Young...
don't you guys want daughters like them?
We don't. We think, I'd like to date her in my next life.
Why should we want them as our daughters, right?
Right?
Isn't that true?
- I have a question for Nichkhun. - Yes?
What would you think of a mom like Hee Sun?
What if she really was your mom?
Since I told you that I'd like a son like you, what if I was your mom?
Instead of hanging out with friends, I would stay home every day.
What is this?
- It sounds somewhat ambiguous. - No, look.
She brings up too many strange topics.
It's my first day today, right? But if I were to dare to offer my opinion...
this show isn't very smooth.
Since I joined the team, it's become even more...
But the only show that's smooth is a documentary show.
Things are very smooth over there, yes.
We aren't smooth. Me neither.
We have another guest in addition to 2PM.
He's garnering more rave reviews than Korea's top star Song Seung Hun.
From When A Man Loves, the silver haired villain, Lee Chang Hun.
I need to ask him this question, but it's an odd question.
This is the question. 'You stand out so much in the show.'
'But you only appear in three scenes.'
- I was hesitant because of that. - I see.
So I asked the writer, 'Why did you cast me?'
I think this is my first supporting actor role ever.
The writer said he's someone mean and evil.
'Why did you cast me? I've never played a character like this before.'
- 'Because you are charming and sexy.' - 'Thank you.'
That's when I fell for it.
When I watched the show, the character was nothing like the Chang Hun I knew.
He was so mean and so disgusting.
I also thought the character was evil and disgusting.
By the fourth episode, I thought about saying I didn't want to play him anymore.
- It drastically changes people's image of you. - That's what I mean.
But I thought, I won't be able to play a character like him any other time.
And I was preparing to play a villain in a movie, as well.
I asked him, 'Chang Hun, how many scenes are you in?'
He said, 'I'm only in three or four scenes.'
He said it himself. 'But I have that undeniable presence.'
[I have that undeniable presence]
Chang Hun and Hee Sun were in many TV dramas together, right?
We were.
They were so at ease with each other.
When I was young, I was in Propose with him.
Then under Director Yoon Suk Hoo we were in White together.
And A Country Far Away, as well --
I have questions for Chang Hun but she keeps cutting me off.
I think she's nervous about something.
Are you nervous that Chang Hun might talk about your past?
When I first met Hee Sun, she was twenty one years old.
- She was just a child. - A child...
She was twenty one and I was thirty one.
She was a child, and in the beginning I liked that she was so young.
But, I didn't like that directors favored her so much when they worked with her.
They were completely indifferent to the leading man.
They treated me as though I were a mutt.
I worked with her when she was twenty one years old.
She did whatever she wanted.
Yes, that is so true.
There was one time when filming was supposed to start at 4 AM.
- What he is saying? - We had to film every day, back then.
- She didn't come out of her car. - How come, how come?
- Because she was like a child. - I think I was sick.
I think I was very sick.
I woke her up and I ran about three hundred meters with her on my back.
When you date someone, you don't really care how old they are.
So why weren't there any scandals between you two?
That's true. No scandal with Hee Sun --
Whenever I worked with him, he was always dating someone.
So the timing wasn't right.
If the timing was right, it could have happened?
I worked so hard to clean up his mess.
- It was so stressful -- - Should I tell on you too?
Both of them are on the brink.
[Look forward to friends of 16 years telling each other's secrets]
We will cover every rumor you can find on SNS (Social Network Service).
Talks about rumors: I Heard It Through the Grapevine.
[I Heard It Through the Grapevine]
I Heard It Through the Grapevine is the segment that Tae Gyun likes the most, right?
Because I have so much time on my hands.
- Using keyboards... - Yes, I use the computer a lot.
And my brother-in-law works in the stock market.
Ah, really?
- Really? - Yes.
He works with bonds, and he's in a high-ranking position.
- Working with bonds? - Yes.
I'm a TV personality but I'm still curious about other TV personalities.
- That's true. - Today...
- I'm looking forward to it. - Why are you looking at me?
This man is at the center of our first rumor.
Scandals followed him wherever he went even before the rise of the internet.
When I go to PTA meetings, parents ask me this question.
'Did that silver-haired guy and Song Hye Kyo date?'
Can't be anyone else.
Oh, I heard it through the grapevine.
So...
I used to not like it when people said that, but now...
I appreciate it.
It's a rumor that's been going around for fifteen years.
Song Hye Kyo's current coordinator was my coordinator for ten years.
When I asked her, 'How did that rumor start?'
She said, 'I know you like her, Chang Hun.'
So, something like that?
It might be a rumor but it's there because there's some basis for it.
It sounds even more believable because the rumors were quite detailed.
She played my love interest.
At the time, Hye Kyo was in grade 12.
I was in my thirties.
- Some said it was teen prostitution. - People must have been very upset.
Song Hye Kyo and Heo Young Ran were the same age.
- Ah, that's right. - Heo Young Ran, Heo Young Ran.
The character who loved bread.
My older sister was attending cooking school and she made me a lot of kimbab for lunch.
Too much for me. So I gave kimbab to each of them.
I did that for about six months.
Heo Young Ran told me...
- 'How could you?' she said. - 'What?' I replied.
- 'I thought you only gave kimbab to me.' - 'Why would I do that?'
No one said anything about my giving kimbab to Young Ran.
But strange rumors started because I gave kimbab to Hye Kyo.
I've never said this before.
People kept talking about this rumor, so I went online to check it out.
- My Hye Kyo did an interview -- - 'My Hye Kyo?'
When he says something like that... He never said 'my Young Ran.'
That's why people think that way.
She was my co-worker. It's 'my Hee Sun,' too.
'My Si Ra. My Ho Jeong.' That's how I talk.
All of a sudden, why does he say 'My Si Ra and my Ho Jeong?'
- You're talking about Chae Si Ra and Yoo Ho Jeong? - Yes.
You know... I've been working with Chang Hun for over fifteen years.
He's never called me 'my Hee Sun.'
I'm just curious. So I'd like to ask you a question.
There has never been a scandal involving Hee Sun, right?
Or with Heo Young Ran, right?
But there is a scandal involving Song Hye Kyo.
Isn't that because you like women who are glamorous and innocent?
When you think back to how it was...
Kwon Oh Joong was the one who...
Why he is mentioning him all of a sudden?
He's doing everything to change the subject.
I can tell the truth now.
Oh Joong kept looking at Hye Kyo whenever she was on the set.
This is what happened.
I thought of her as a young friend who lived with her mother.
I met her when she was in grade 12. So I thought of her as a child.
She told me how her mom was ill and how she broke up with her boyfriend.
You don't talk about things like that to just anyone, right?
- I was like her uncle -- - Yes, since she's 'my Hye Kyo.'
When it was cold out, she and I waited for our turns in a car.
There was one time she was crying and told me, 'I broke up with my boyfriend.'
'It's okay. It's part of growing up. You need to date a lot to find the right person.'
- When others saw that -- - They thought you two were arguing?
They would think she was crying because of Chang Hun.
After I told her that, I paused to think what else I should tell her.
It looks just like I just dumped her.
Yes, it looks just like that from the outside.
After all those rumors, have you kept in touch with Hye Kyo?
- Never. - That's why it looks fishy.
Twelve years after Seun Poong Gynecology Clinic was over...
I came across Hye Kyo by chance.
It was at a Japanese restaurant.
Somebody called for me, 'Chang Hun.'
I didn't recognize her, 'Who are you?'
Back then, Hye Kyo was plump, right? Baby fat, you know?
She lost that weight, and she had become a beautiful woman.
- 'It's Hye Kyo.' - 'Oh, Hye Kyo. Why are you so thin?'
That's how I ran into her.
So what do you mean by scandals?
So you mean, you didn't like her when she was plump?
[The chain of rumors never ends (?)]
This makes it worse.
We'll conclude this way.
If I were still single...
I'd be proud of it and say hi to her.
But I feel bad about it because I'm married and have kids.
Back then, I was in my prime.
Now I'm a veteran actor in some ways.
Because of that, I feel bad when people talk about it.
But you told our production staff that you wanted to tell the truth about the rumor.
- They said you came just for that. - She keeps bringing it up.
We won't talk about Hye Kyo anymore.
I remember this one thing.
I watched a show that interviewed Chang Hun about that rumor.
Did you watch it?
[You still remember that...?]
[Of course, I do...]
I said something very mean.
It was on TV Entertainment News in the Evening.
He was sitting where you are and the camera was over there.
He got very angry when they brought up the age difference and teen prostitution.
He looked straight into the camera and pointed his finger at it.
'The person who wrote that article. I'll find you.' Like this.
I remember that.
That was the only interview I did regarding the rumor involving Hye Kyo.
I looked into the camera and said, 'Let's meet. Talking to you won't work.'
'You need to be beaten.'
[Intense!]
It's clearly talking about Song Hye Kyo.
How could you mention 'teen prostitution' like that?
You shouldn't throw someone under the bridge like that just to make some money.
If he ever wants to write an article about me, he should be careful.
No matter what it takes, I won't just sit idly by.
He was declaring war on him. I was so surprised.
You shouldn't use 'teen prostitution' for a situation like that.
I don't think he's Korean.
I think he didn't even know what 'teen prostitution' means.
- What's the age difference between you two? - What year was she born?
I think she was born in 1981.
She's fifteen years younger than you.
[Tae Gyu... you did a lot of research, didn't you?]
She is one year older than your wife.
The reporter who wrote that article certainly still thinks you dated her.
Your wife is younger than Song Hye Kyo.
Now that you mention it, it's true.
I heard something interesting from a friend of mine.
'You keep getting older, but why do your girlfriends remain 23 years old?'
- You weren't curious about that? - No, no.
[I respect (?) you, Chang Hun]
If we're talking about rumors...
Shim Eun Ha and Lee Young Ae were also mentioned.
Back then, I'd been in the business for a while and Eun Ha was a rookie.
She said she was hungry. So we went to eat very late one night.
There used to be a restaurant named Bonjour.
Eun Ha's manager joined so the three of us were eating.
The next day, someone from TV Guide called me.
'Did you enjoy your meal at Bonjour?'
'How did you know?'
'You have to be careful. At least three people follow you around.'
[Oh my!]
On one hand, I thought, 'I'm very popular.' But on the other hand...
'This is really scary.'
Other females celebrities mentioned are Kim Wan Sun, Choi Jeong Yoon, and so on.
And from what I've read --
- Did you look it up? - I looked it up.
He studies hard.
Once I set my mind to it...
When I looked it up, I found that
in August, there were two rumors involving him.
Ah...
- In one month -- - That's true.
[I heard it through the grapevine]
Reporter Bong... Reporter Bong.
I like to dig deep.
I got so into it.
It's a very important story. You should know about this.
One of them was not a TV personality.
[An exclusive news report by Reporter Bong]
I have a good memory.
We were starting to develop feelings for each other.
Reporters got information from her and it got into the news.
I tried to avoid it.
I got so many phone calls because this was the mid-90s.
Reporters were even staking out my house.
They came to the movie set, as well.
- You told a reporter it wasn't true. - I said it wasn't true.
I had been talking to them on the phone.
But I decided not to do interviews, so I turned off my phone.
There was an entertainment news reporter who's been in the business for a very long time.
Someone that I was friends with.
'Chang Hun, I know what you are going through.'
'I won't publish it. I just want to know the truth.'
I trusted him.
'Buddy...'
'We are just getting closer. This shouldn't make the news.'
'I'm a single guy and I need to date someone and get married.'
'Yes, how intimate how are you two?'
- 'We went out to eat three times.' - 'Really? Your future plans?'
'I can't talk about it. Couldn't you just let it go this once?'
- He interviewed you. - He did interview you.
And then...
They played a video of someone's feet and pretend they were mine.
- A recording of my voice played over it. - I see, I see.
- In that moment -- - So why two separate rumors?
- So at that moment... - Were you two-timing?
[Two-timing?!] Were you two-timing?
That was about the tenth time they had written about my love life.
- They used to headline it on the first page. - Yes, yes.
I came up with a strategy.
Okay... an eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth.
There was a rookie actress in our agency.
I said to the president, 'Let's do this and make this get in the news.'
- Staging it? - I was the best leading man, anyway.
If we do that, it's good for her, too. In the end...
Noise marketing?
The important thing is that they write 'Deeply in love.'
With 'In a TV drama...' at the bottom.
That's why we posed like this.
She's a friend of mine. So we took the photos like that.
We posed like this.
This story sold more papers.
What happened to the first one? It became a fake story.
- Ah, that's what happened. - So, the first story was buried.
I think all of that happened within a couple of days.
- The second story became more popular? - That's right.
But you said in an interview that 60% of the stories about your love life are true.
- How do you know that? - I also know you said that on a morning show.
What it was...
On a morning show?
He said on a morning show that most of them are true.
Tae Gyu, are watching TV and surfing the net all you do?
How could he have known something like that?
- He totally caught me by surprise. - Didn't he?
What it is is that... actually... Lee Seung Cheol is a friend of mine.
He released a new album.
He wasn't really popular back then.
And I was very popular at the time.
I wanted to help him market his new album.
I started it out like this. 'Actually 60% of the rumors are true.'
Nam Hee Suk was the host of the show, and he ended the show on that note.
You wanted to grab everyone's attention and then talk about Lee Seung Cheol?
I wanted to talk about his new album.
And he ended the show.
Newspapers wrote, 'Lee Chang Hun admits the rumors are true.'
'It wasn't that...' But the game was over.
Seung Cheol successfully marketed his album.
What about me?
If you want to correct it now, what percent of them were true?
- Ten percent? - Come on...
I just might tell on you.
[Oh...]
What if you two lost your minds and started to tell on each other?
In your opinion, what do you think is the right number?
- Fifty five? - Fifty five...
Hee Sun said, 'You had so many scandals. Why not with me?'
'Why would an uncle date his niece?' I replied.
I'm only ten years younger...
But your wife is as young as your niece.
Do you forget that sometimes?
She is in her late thirties.
Aren't you? Isn't she?
- Mid-late thirties. - Same difference.
There is a difference.
But why are you pointing your finger at me?
But you're older than 35...
We aren't even friends, why mention my age?
[It's okay...]
Please wrap it up, Hee Sun.
We'll correct 25 years worth of Chang Hun's rumors with a red pen.
He went out with many women...
but not with Song Hye Kyo.
[He went out with many women but not with Song Hye Kyo]
That's a scary way to wrap it up.
It's a scary way to wrap it up.
- Doesn't it make them sound true? - It kind of does.
It feels like I gained something but achieved nothing.
[Went out for wool and came home shorn]
- When I read their -- - 2PM.
I've never heard this about 2PM before but here it is.
- Won't this just make it worse? - No, no.
We're informing the viewers about it.
This rumor is going around in Gangnam.
Nichkhun is known for his partying habits, so his nickname is...
'Emperor of the night.'
[I heard it through the grapevine]
Okay, Nichkhun. [Really?]
I'm sorry but I didn't know he was rumored to be dating Song Hye Kyo.
Why would you bring it back up again?
But I've heard that Nichkhun is the emperor of the night.
Really?
- Yes, I've heard that too. I have. - I've heard it, too.
I heard it's because he's so handsome and popular.
It's not that Nichkhun is a player, women just won't let him be.
But he doesn't try very hard to say no.
Isn't that scary? Like you can't keep any secrets?
They always find out about it.
You make it sound like the rumor is true.
Being the emperor of the night means...
you pay for your wine and you drink. What's wrong with that?
Drinking wine means you're the emperor of the night?
People don't say, 'You're the emperor of the night' when you drink beer with dried pollack.
[Strict standards to become the emperor of the night]
- I guess you like to drink, Nichkhun? - I do like it, but...
what does 'emperor of the night' mean?
'Emperor of the night' means...
Dong Yup may not have been like an emperor but...
he might be the duke of the night.
He used to be... But now he is...
- Duke of the night? - Yes.
Do you have an idea as to why these rumors might exist?
I think I know. It's the president's fault.
[The president?]
When the CEO of our agency meets someone, he wants me there.
Because he wants to brag about him.
- He always wants him to come along. - Only Nichkhun?
That seems to be the case...
We aren't talking about JYP here.
A different person.
He works on the business side of things.
Ah, you didn't mean JYP.
Everyone thinks it's JYP.
I thought, 'It's JYP. Yes, hitting two birds with one stone!'
No, it's not him.
- Isn't it JYP? - No, it isn't.
What was the most number of times he wanted you to come along?
- Before word broke out, twice? - 'Before word broke out.'
- Before word got out. - Before word got out.
- Twice a week? - He apologized to Nichkhun. He felt guilty.
- He didn't bring me along afterward. - Ah, I see.
We only talk on the phone.
- Only via phones. - Only... through...
- So, he knows about the rumor. - Yes.
I'm disappointed that he only took Nichkhun along...
He could've called me.
What do you mean? He brought me along, as well.
[I see...]
But because you're an idol singer --
- It's because he's the youngest. - Ah, the youngest...
But I'm an adult now... But okay...
JYP now has an idol singer who is married, right?
JYP told us earlier this year, '2PM, you've worked hard. You can start dating if you want.'
Didn't you think to yourself, 'I've already been dating.'
But seriously, you have had girlfriends?
I don't think I can say I've dated someone.
- But you've met with girls? - Not just casually, but...
We did go out but we didn't date.
What does that mean? Went out but didn't date her?
No, I mean...
- That's right. - Going out is dating someone.
I guess platonic love?
We were texting and talking on the phone.
- You talked on the phone -- - We didn't go out to eat.
- You only did it on the phone? - What are you saying?
Never going out but only talking on the phone is...
We dated only via phone calls.
Oh...
Was that because she was someone very famous?
Because I was scared.
- You were? - Yes.
I was so scared of being seen with a woman.
People might talk about it.
But you should go out with many women.
That's how you find someone better.
Because you're young, you're youthful right now.
You need to date a lot in order to find the right person to marry.
If you try to marry someone after not dating anyone...
There is so much weight to his words.
When you say it...
- it sounds so true. - It is true.
You can learn so much from him because he's like the forefather of scandals.
Like the progenitor.
You kind of feel for them, right?
They're so worried about what might happen if they're seen dating someone.
Can you tell him how to handle it?
He says he talks to her on the phone...
One of the things you can do is... Make some kimbab at home.
Take a big patio umbrella to the terrace on the Han River.
Place it facing the river.
You two can sit there and talk.
You want him to do that?
I want them to date.
Bring a patio umbrella and kimbab? People will recognize him.
There are places where no one goes.
You go to places like that to date. You need to date, to love.
There is more to life than working.
Did you make the kimbab yourself?
Of course, you can't ask the girl to make it.
The paparazzi take photos of idol singers.
Can you tell when they're taking photos of you?
- When you have that gut feeling... - There was one waiting around our place.
He was waiting in his car with the ignition off.
I had come outside on my bicycle.
I noticed that there might be someone sitting in that car.
So I kept my eye on it while I approached.
I felt like I made eye contact with someone. You know that feeling, right?
Right at that moment, the driver's seat moved back.
I saw it and I thought, 'What is that about?'
He probably thought, 'It's just Chan Sung.'
'Why him?' he probably thought. Seriously.
Chan Sung has never been photographed by paparazzi since he debuted.
On top of that, there are people who do not recognize him.
Me?
[I heard it through the grapevine]
- Even now? - That can't be.
No...
After he appeared on a TV drama, he's become much more popular.
I've gained a lot of fans because of it.
We were filming at a hospital.
- Ahn Nae Sang was sitting behind me. - Ah, Ahn Nae Sang.
People in the hospital gathered to look at Ahn Nae Sang.
There were two middle-aged ladies next to me.
One of them recognized me and said...
'Oh... aren't you 2PM?'
Being playful, I told her, 'No, I am not.'
'No, you aren't? But you look so much like him,' she said.
It was really funny to me, so I laughed out loud.
My friend and I were having fun with it and laughing about it.
The lady who was beside her told me...
'It must be a nice feeling to hear that you look like a celebrity!'
I once went to Gangnam to meet someone I knew.
Someone handed me a key.
- Thinking you worked there? - Valet parking.
The person handed me a car key.
I took it.
I was going to say something but she handed over 2,000 won.
- What was even more absurd was -- - They don't usually do that.
I was so taken aback, I started to laugh.
I was laughing.
'Ah, that's right,' she said. I thought she recognized me.
She thought she needed to pay more, so she gave me 2,000 more.
- As an additional fee? - Yes.
So I've gone through something like that.
What happened to me is nothing big.
- No, it's nothing big. - He is so fortunate.
You really don't seem like an actor today.
You seem like a professional MC --
He's Yoon Jong Shin. He's Yoon Jong Shin.
He's been an actor in order to become an MC.
Chang Hun, do you know how to avoid being photographed by the paparazzi?
- How to... - He seems a little tired.
When I was in Seun Poong Gynecology Clinic...
I was popular with little kids.
At the time, I was briefly dating a celebrity.
Little kids were walking towards us.
- I was most popular among little kids -- - While you were walking with your girlfriend.
I wasn't worried about that. I was worried that they might recognize me and pull on my clothes.
[Bulging]
[Transformed into a blow fish!]
I did this.
I held it until they marched past me.
When they were past me...
A kid said, 'Did you see? Chang Hun was doing this.'
[Such a rare sight for kids to see]
I thought I disguised myself but they were pretending they didn't recognize me.
Even little kids knew...
You should disguise yourself completely.
The writers say this about you, Taec Yeon.
Your mother was once the grand champion on a quiz show?
[I heard it through the grapevine]
Oh...
- Really? - Yes...
There are many quiz shows around.
- All of them. - Ah, really?
Almost everything in our house are prizes she won.
That's amazing.
Back then, they used to give overseas trip packages as the prize.
So she's been overseas more often than I have.
- More than her k-pop star son? - Yes, more often than I have.
What's the biggest prize she's won?
She won a 14 day trip to Europe.
There are two quiz shows, one on SBS and one on KBS.
She won four times in a row and received a 13 day trip.
She also went to Taiwan, Europe, five countries in western Europe, Southeast Asia.
She's amazing!
I think your mother was made for TV.
Yes, she loves being on TV a lot.
Really?
My mom is very... bubbly.
She speaks in a tone like this.
- She's very cute. - She sounds great.
So...
She could be our guest.
When I lived in the U.S. there was a drama called I'm Sorry, I Love You.
Choi Yoon's mom would call to him...
'Oh, my son!' Like this.
Son. My son.
I was so surprised.
Someone besides my mother also calls her son that way.
Right now she'll say, 'Oh, my son!'
When we lived in the U.S. she would say, 'Oh my son!'
Your mom would agree to be our guest if we asked, right?
Yes, that's why I always try to stop her.
We should have invited her.
- What's the reason for that? - It's because I'm a TV personality...
I'm well-received as a musician right now...
but I might make a mistake or do something wrong.
In Korea, I think people have a tendency to say
it's because the parents didn't teach them well.
- Home education? - Yes, home education. So...
You wouldn't do anything wrong, Taec Yeon.
I think that introducing your mom to the public
would be a way to show that you wouldn't do anything bad.
- You should've brought her... - Oh, no...
What if she's doing an internet broadcast somewhere?
She could be. Don't you think?
Doing something simple like talking to other moms.
You should look into it.
That was one thing I didn't like.
Something like meeting my fans.
'Hi, are you Taec Yeon's mom?'
What if my fans turn on me because I do something wrong?
Why so many worries?
It's going to be okay.
You are making Nichkhun feel uncomfortable.
Nothing bad will happen. You don't have to worry.
Why do you worry so much?
I mean, look at me. Come on now.
- I'm the one who should worry. - I mean just in case.
You shouldn't worry when you're so level-headed.
That's right. You don't have to worry about it.
If you were to introduce her, please do it here on Hwasin.
Yes, I will.
Such as the Hwasin autumn festival special.
Next up is the most unexpected rumor.
It's a rumor about Sung Si Kyung. Don't be shocked, everyone.
'Sung Si Kyung... he's actually... warm-hearted.'
[I heard it through the grapevine]
- Is that the rumor? - That's the rumor.
[A rumor even he finds hard (?) to believe]
'Something's wrong with me. He's strange. He's cold-hearted.'
The rumor is, 'Actually, Sung Si Kyung is a warm-hearted guy.'
People around me say that Si Kyung is a very loving guy.
He takes good care of people around him.
Please say whether this rumor is true or not.
What kind of show is this?
I was so shocked.
That in fact, you're a little...
They thought I was cold-hearted but I'm actually a warm person?
It's been years since I've talked with him.
I have a little bit of a problem with Sung Si Kyung.
I used to be a radio DJ for KBS.
- That's right, that's right. - Kim Jang Hun hosted a show after me.
But Kim Jang Hun was late for work.
- You know PD Oh Soo Jin, right? - Yes.
She asked me to be on air for ten more minutes and I said, 'Okay.'
That's when I wasn't working much.
I saw Si Kyung entering the studio with a popsicle in his hand.
They seemed to be saying...
- 'What is he doing there?' - 'Jang Hun is late for work.'
'Want me to do it? Let me do it instead,' I heard him say.
I thought, 'Such an arrogant jerk.'
I really did think that.
- What's interesting is -- - I'm serious.
It's rather troublesome to do something like that for someone.
- Right? - Yes.
I like it so much when he gets serious like this.
I meant that since it's troublesome, I could do it so he didn't have to.
Also, Sung Si Kyung is taller than I am and speaks English quite well.
He's also good-looking, so he was already making people nervous.
Not like if Bong Tae Gyu or Yoon Jong Shin had said, 'I'll do it.'
It wouldn't have mattered, but that's how I felt back then.
Today he looks very gentle.
Maybe because he's been to the military and worked hard in 1 Night 2 Days.
He really does look that way. He does look gentler.
I already know this.
But please tell us how friendly and warm-hearted you are.
I think I haven't been on a TV show like this in 13 years.
Because every week we renew the show...
It's hard to talk about because it's about a misunderstanding.
I don't know. My circles are kind of small.
For example, I began my career working with Kim Hyung Suk.
After I met him, he became my drinking buddy for three years.
- Only with him? - Yes.
When I hosted a radio show that ended at 12 AM...
I would drink with the writers about four times a week.
- You went to drink with them. - I only drank with them.
I don't have many friends who are celebrities.
I'm not good at meeting my friends' friends and things like that.
My circles are quite small, so acquaintances might think that.
Also my personality is kind of like that. I'm not good at bending.
I can do that with close friends.
When someone crosses the line, I don't pretend to be okay with it.
I hit them back.
If they hit me, I hit back harder.
Because they did it first. I'm still kind of like that.
So I probably got in trouble because of that.
If someone is mannerless, you should just let it go.
But I become even more mannerless.
If someone says, 'Write me an autograph! Hey, come over, get his autograph!'
Usually celebrities will say, 'Okay, okay...'
But I say...
'You know you're being mannerless, right?'
Yes, that's it. I know what you're talking about.
For example...
After 1 Night 2 Days, I've taken a lot of photographs.
I promised that I would let them take photographs of me unless I looked awful.
I don't like being photographed. There aren't many photos of me as a child.
I don't like to look at my own face...
So one day... they always say this.
'My friend is a huge fan. Let me take a photo.' And she held up her phone.
'Please don't,' I said.
'Why?' 'I don't want to be photographed,' I said.
'But you're a celebrity.'
When I heard that, I could have just walked away.
'So, a celebrity shouldn't dislike being photographed?'
That's my problem.
'I'm a human, too. Weren't you asking me?'
'Don't I have the right to say no?' I told her.
'You've got to be kidding me,' she replied.
- I'm sorry I touched you... - No, no.
It's because I like you.
You should touch him even more now.
So I've been pretty busy with those things.
- May I say something? - Yes.
[Chang Hun offers instant mentoring??]
I've been wanting to pee for so long...
[I want to go to the bathroom]
[Confused]
All of a sudden you bring up something like that.
I thought he was going to offer words of wisdom...
I thought he'd say, 'It's not like that.'
'You should let them photograph you while they ask.'
'It's the same for everyone,' I thought he'd say.
[Everyone paid attention to him, expecting to hear that...]
People who are clear-cut like him don't do anything wrong.
That's true, yes.
He wants to wrap it up quickly.
I think political circles would covet him because he speaks honestly.
You could be the union head for singers in the future.
The current head is Lee Dong Ki.
[Lee Dong Ki: Don't you want to be my successor??]
[Hwasin]
I have the most experience points in living life like a roller coaster ride.
I'm Kim Gu Ra.
I have the most experience points in contracts, swindling, and debt.
I'm Shin Dong Yup.
I have the most experience points in living as a woman.
I'm Kim Hee Sun.
The ultimate in living in seclusion.
I have the most experience points in living alone. I'm Bong Tae Gyu.
[So diverse...]
- We have an enormous range here. - We do.
We are the best in our class. Yes.
We, the MCs for Hwasin, will empathize with anything you say to us.
The magical one-liner that's born out of life experiences.
Just like you make a line of kimbab when you're hungry...
time to share an encouraging one-liner for when you're hungry in spirit!
The power of one line!
[Power of one line]
It's the voice I hear on the radio.
First, a one-liner by Lee Chang Hun.
Oh... I can relate to this.
'You are the true senior at work when they treat you to dinner.'
[You are the true senior at work when they treat you to dinner]
I hear your younger colleagues buy you dinner.
The first time it happened was when I took on supporting roles.
It was the first time I ate a meal that a younger colleague bought.
For the first time.
Usually, the leading actor and actress buy dinner for everyone on the set.
But I couldn't let myself eat it. So one day while we're filming...
Song Seung Hun is the lead actor of our show.
He said, 'Chang Hun, let me buy you dinner.'
'No, it's okay.'
Because I don't like that, and I've never done that before.
But then...
when I went out to eat, there weren't any restaurants.
He had his manager prepare food for everyone.
I walked by it and...
I needed to eat to continue working, you know.
'Is there some for me?'
'Of course. This is your seat.'
So I sat down and ate.
'I've been foolish...'
I remember how it used to be.
I worked with veteran actor Joo Hyun... I call him Father.
We became friends and we went to eat.
One day he told me, 'After we eat, you can pay for the beers.'
I thought it would be arrogant of me to pay for his when he's like my dad.
I thought he was joking.
So I said, 'Yes, I will...'
After we drank, he asked, 'Why aren't you paying?'
'Is it really okay?' He said yes.
So I did, and it felt as if...
- 'He's acknowledging me.' - I see...
As an actor.
And it meant we became friends.
TV personalities relate well to one another, you know?
'Being treated to a dinner means I am the senior at work.'
You need to acknowledge the leading actor.
And I got to eat, as well. The reason why I finished my meal quickly...
He's like the captain on the set. The leading actor is the captain.
Everyone else is younger than he is.
'You know, I think this way. Let's do this.'
He needs that space to lead them but he can't if I'm there.
So, I ate quickly and went somewhere else.
I was very happy.
'I am acknowledging a younger colleague.'
Because times are changing.
I wanted to be a positive force.
'I need to embrace being treated to dinner by a younger colleague.'
When you were the leading man, you treated everyone to dinner.
- Production staff, too? - Yes.
Don't the younger colleagues say something?
- What? - That you aren't paying for anything.
Nichkhun, we've been talking about that all along.
So, after we finish here, you treat us to dinner.
[Let's put it into practice!]
- But you don't like -- - Being treated to dinner.
He never liked being --
When a younger colleague wants to pay...
Some people say, 'Hey, why are you paying?' But they really appreciate it.
And some people really hate it.
- And you really hated it. - Yes, I did.
[Let me pay for yours today]
[I never allow a younger colleague to pay for mine!]
- He really hates it. - It's because...
It was my mistake because I wasn't acknowledging my younger colleagues.
'I'm always the captain and you are just my younger colleagues.'
I wasn't acknowledging them as my equals.
I think people who work in organizational structures need to acknowledge each other.
But if PSY wants to pay, shouldn't you let him do it to no end?
PSY should always pay.
The rich become richer in this world.
[Upset]
PSY was already quite wealthy.
And he's become even wealthier now.
And he does always pay.
What impressed me the most was...
'I am acknowledging him.'
Rather than letting them pay, it's more about acknowledging them.
I think it's the right way to think about it.
It's easy to give but to joyously receive something is more difficult.
To really enjoy something when someone treats you...
I think that's harder.
Not only paying for someone but also receiving graciously.
Lee Seo Jin lives in the same neighborhood as I do.
I went to a restaurant and I was eating brunch.
- He was there and he greeted me. - Lee Seo Jin, right?
Afterward the server told me, 'Lee Seo Jin paid for yours.'
I felt so...
'Who does this guy think he is?'
Over something like that?
It's strange to feel so prideful about nothing.
Feeling prideful over nothing.
My wife looked at me and said, 'That was a bit rude.'
'I should have ordered something more expensive,' I said.
It bothered me.
We run into each other once in a while.
I want to be someone who can say, 'Seo Jin, thank you for the meal.'
Instead of 'Why did you pay for mine?'
I should let this go.
Did it happen before or after you changed your mind about who should pay?
I changed my mind only recently.
It's only been about two weeks.
[One-liner right out of the oven]
Oh man, right out of the oven!
Not something that came from decades of living.
- He tells us something two weeks old. - Because life is all about the future.
It happened while working on a show that's on TV right now.
I am so thankful that my Seung Hun treated me to dinner.
'My Seung Hun.'
This is Si Kyung's one-liner.
'When you're struggling, mind other people's business.'
- This is so profound. - What does it mean?
'When you are struggling, mind other people's business.'
[When you are struggling, mind other people's business]
To be honest, I have a lot of worries.
Is there something you've struggled with recently?
- Out of your worries? - About my music career.
Wondering if I can get married. I like to drink because...
I can't sleep if I don't drink.
I didn't promote my seventh album very much.
I wasn't expecting it to become a success.
'Since I'm back from the military, let's make a comeback.'
'Even if it doesn't become a hit, I'll hold on to my old style.'
But songs these days are so...
Back in the day, Kim Jong Seo made a comeback, and so did Glass Box.
- That's right. - That's right.
There were hop hip groups, ballad and idol groups...
There was diversity in the mix.
But these days, when I'm in a standby room...
it feels like I'm a teacher.
Just like Moses parted the red sea... they bow to me.
'Hey, don't. Please don't.'
I feel uneasy.
The biggest difference I notice is... how the audience responds to me.
They want to see their favorite boy bands but when a tall singer in his thirties sings...
- Are they silent? - The prelude of my song is over 20 seconds.
You should start singing right away.
And then, I sing.
They were excited but start to whisper, 'It's Sung Si Kyung...'
'That's Mr. Sung Si Kyung.'
It's when they take a break.
- After cheering hard... - That's right.
That has to be it.
To recharge for their favorite boy band.
That's all they can see.
PSY and I talked about this.
Gangnam Style, for example.
Then it's okay.
Young singers sing and dance along to it.
And the song is the best, no question.
Or new songs by Cho Yong Phil.
But when your song is in seventh place somewhere...
- Ah, that's right. - It kind of feels like...
I'm taking away a spot that a new singer could use.
I just should sing at concerts and do radio shows.
I feel like I might be taking away from them.
2PM, when you were about to make a comeback...
Maybe not to the same degree but...
'There are so many boy bands...' Did you have those worries?
INFINITE is gaining a lot of popularity.
- Rather than calling them worries.. - 2PM feels that way too?
It's been so long since we performed in Korea.
Just as Si Kyung said, we haven't performed here because we've been performing overseas.
It feels like we are just getting back on track now.
So rather than, 'We should be number one. We should be the best.'
I would like us to enjoy the music.
You can't help it...
There are gisaeng at MBS. Park Sang Won...
You mean 'recruited actors.' I thought you meant something else.
[Ah! Recruited actors!!]
[Chang Hun shocks us several times today]
It did sound like that.
He was so successful and then so was Kim Chan Woo, as well.
Chan Woo maintained that level of popularity for two and a half years.
- Nobody could challenge him. - Yes, it was amazing.
After that Lee Chang Hun debuted on Mother's Sea.
- Yes, you did. - 'Yes, it's my turn.'
I got to make a movie with Linh Dan Pham and expand my acting career.
I was in Vietnam, relaxed.
I was the highest paid actor.
'How much money I can make and how many projects can I do in two and a half years?'
As the most popular actor.
After eight months, I read a newspaper.
'Cha In Pyo is here,' it says.
[Cha In Pyo's index finger takes away his 22 months of being the top guy]
'Cha In Pyo is here!'
- Oh, that's when he debuted. - He played saxophone.
[He conquered Korea with his index finger and saxophone]
'I should have done a few more commercials,' but it was too late.
In times like that, I need self-control.
'Someone new has come along. I have my roles to play.'
I couldn't try and copy him. I couldn't just start to work out and become muscular like him.
That's when I need to empty my mind and think about the direction that I can take.
It was kind of a painful time for me.
I'm so curious how it is for an idol group.
Can you feel it when you lose your fans?
- Can you tell? - There is something.
When the websites made by our fans suddenly disappear...
or the website has photos of a different guy.
That's something to be sensitive about.
For example, let's say there's www.oktaecyeon.com.
Then it says, 'www.oktaecyeon.com has moved here.'
And it's turned into a website for Nichkhun.
Si Kyung, so you counsel listeners about their worries and you have your own.
For example, I worry about my music career.
'Am I doing it right at my age? Will I be able marry? What will happen?'
I think about a lot of things, you know?
And I host my radio show everyday.
I have a lot on my mind already but when I listen to their problems...
I can find answers to my own.
For example, if someone your age writes in with the same problem?
So, for example...
There are so many listeners preparing to take a test.
I notice that when I do my show.
The biggest worry on their minds is...
'Everyone else is doing so well. What am I doing here studying in a tiny room?'
'Should I quit?'
I want to console them.
'Think of it this way.'
'You are like a spring being pushed hard from both sides.'
'The springs that already jumped might appear to be ahead.'
'But you've pushing for a long time, so it's going to jump far when you let go.'
'It will help you for sure later on.'
And then, I think about it on my way home.
'Yeah, that's right. That is true.'
People send us many stories about life and death.
Someone working at a hospice always prays that
there won't be an empty bed when she gets to work.
Then I think, 'That's right. Everyone dies anyway.'
'What's the hurry? I am happy now. I can take my time releasing a new album.'
There was one listener who decided to give themselves a gift.
When I'm working hard or I feel stressed, I say...
'If I work hard for three months, I'll buy a handbag or go on a trip to Bangkok.'
That's when I went on a diet.
I gained so much weight. Because I wasn't funny on 1 Night 2 Days, I ate instead.
Not only because of that.
I thought, 'Maybe I should live like a celebrity.' I thought about it but didn't do it.
'Okay, let me go on a diet for 100 days.'
I can complete it by the middle of June.
I will reward myself with a trip.
'Let's write songs and release an album by September or October.'
I create my own life plans because I counsel others on their problems.
I really like being a radio DJ except for how little they pay you.
That's true. They pay you so little.
I mean compared to TV, they pay you so little.
It's a great job only if they pay you a lot of money.
- But you work everyday, right? - You work everyday.
Just as Si Kyung shared, I also have a lot of worries.
'Will I be able to make people laugh?' Worries like this.
I don't know if you'll believe this but
I like major league baseball a lot. There's a pitcher named Steve Blass.
And there's a disorder called 'Steve Blass Syndrome.'
He used to win about ten games per season.
When he threw for a playoff game, he couldn't pitch a strike.
There really is a disorder like that.
'I need to make money.'
'Kim Hee Sun and Bong Tae Gyu are beside me. What if I can't say anything funny?'
I do have a fear like this.
It's real.
- You know what I mean, right? - Of course, of course.
'Do I deserve this much love and attention?'
'I am like a big bubble.'
'Once it bursts and people find out...'
I was thinking like this.
'So I should succeed in business.' That's why I got into business.
- That is true. - That's true.
He and I talk about things like that.
That's why I don't like being in the standby room before filming begins.
Looking at myself in the mirror, 'Okay, let's make them laugh.'
It's been four to five hours since we've been talking.
The only thing guests have to do is just talk about their stories.
I noticed that Hee Sun was only looking at the guests.
So I thought, 'Why am I staring at the back of her head?' So I started to talk again.
Because I have to!
- It's a huge pressure. - Yes, it is.
There was one time when --
Should I look at you instead?
Don't. Don't do that.
His ears are red.
Come on.
- He doesn't know what to do. - Please, don't.
I have no idea how to handle a woman who does this.
You looked at the back of my head?
Okay, okay.
Seriously. I guess you've got something now.
I was a guest last week, right?
It's been a while since I was on TV. It's been two and a half years?
I thought people forgot about me because I wasn't doing many projects.
I was heavily criticized because my last movie was a box office bomb.
- A Tale of Legendary Libido? - Yes.
- People still talk about flops though. - That's right.
- How many people watched it? - Not even 400,000 people.
But the production cost was over 6 billion won.
- Like 'Sex And Zen?' - Yes.
Why would it cost over 6 billion won?
It was a huge blockbuster.
Sometimes I think about it.
I acknowledge that one of my weaknesses is that my movie was a box office bomb.
But I think a man becomes sexy when he openly acknowledge his weakness.
- How long did it take you to acknowledge that? - It took me about four years.
- How come? - Because... because...
Not that I wasn't acknowledging that it failed but I didn't want to say that it was my fault.
'It went wrong because of this and that.'
I even said this on a TV show.
'I forgot about A Tale of Legendary Libido. I want to buy the copyright and burn it.'
Tell us a brief summary of the movie.
The synopsis is very cool.
There are a lot of superhero movies out there, right?
- You know Batman Begins, right? - I do, I do.
- How did the Batman become the Batman? - Yes, yes.
A Tale of Legendary Libido is about if he got to have a legendary libido.
How did he come to have a...
I remember what Gu Ra said to me.
'How could that be entertaining?'
'What's entertaining about a kid with an enormous libido?'
'A kid with an enormous libido...'
How sexy are the bed scenes?
I won't talk about how sexy it is.
- He's still holding on it. - No, no.
- Why can't you talk about it? - I can't because...
I did a bed scene with a bear.
It had to be a box office bomb.
Why would you do a bed scene with a bear?
What is this?
It's a miracle that the movie opened in Korea in the first place.
And... it really is... hardcore.
You know, you can't use a real bear, right?
- I don't know if they'll let this air. - Of course not.
Let me tell you about how it happened.
I guess it took a lot of money to buy that bear costume.
They hired the best mime performer in Korea.
Because, because...
We should do an episode just on that movie.
- Who was the lead actress? - She was a rookie.
They made a bear costume and they made the mast portion of it so heavy.
The best mime performer in Korea ran away because it was so difficult to move in it.
I wonder why a funny movie like that didn't succeed?
Did you do a bed scene with Yoon Yeon Jeong too?
I did one with Yoon Yeo Jeong too.
How many women did you...
The entire village, the entire village.
[Extraordinary scale]
If I had talked about this earlier, I would be frowning right now.
But this is what I have realized.
- I was the lead actor. What can I do? - Yes, that is true.
I also took a break for two years as well.
When you get to the bottom of it, it's more important what you do with it.
You need to be well-prepared.
People who've been in the business for a long time know how.
You get to work when you're ready for it.
But there is a time when you can't even get prepared.
You think about so many things.
'Should I do The Dragon's Oil?'
Because acting is all I know.
I think of everything.
You think that way when you are unemployed.
I think Chang Hun may misunderstand one thing.
A Tale of Legendary Libido wasn't a success but it wasn't anything like that.
- Did you get upset? - I didn't get --
If you are upset, aren't you still holding onto the past?
I...
I think... someone definitely could think of the movie that way.
I watched your movie and I thought...
'He's trying out many different roles. That's amazing.' I acknowledge that.
Ah, that was the story.
Ask him if you are curious about something.
It's... it's Enormous Libido Begins.
It touches my heart, yes...
This used to be my one-liner before.
'I need to forgive myself so that others can forgive me too.'
[I need to forgive myself so that others can forgive me too]
We feel lighter because we've been through so much.
There's been some inner strength...
What do you mean you feel lighter? You always feel heavy.
We always feel heavy but pretend we feel light.
When someone hits you, you fly over like this.
You need to feel light so that you won't get too hurt when you fall.
If you tense up, you break all your bones.
You move like this and this.
Nichkhun, you were involved in an incident that you needed to ask for forgiveness, right?
Yes, I did.
Did you feel sorry that it happened to the other person?
Yes, so I went to visit him in person after the accident.
I held his hands and said, 'I am so sorry.'
He was a very good person.
'It's okay. It was my fault, too,' he told me.
You've been through a lot of heartache?
A lot of heartache, yes.
I couldn't explain what happened at the time.
So I... So I... just had to keep it to myself.
It's the best to acknowledge that it's your fault.
You stayed inside after the accident, right?
I stayed inside for a month and a half after the accident.
- You stayed home? - I didn't go out.
I hated myself so much. I couldn't forgive myself.
Because I used to play the role of disciplinarian in our band.
'Don't do that. Don't throw it away. Don't swear,' I used to play that role.
Because I did something wrong...
I felt apologetic to my band members.
Didn't you think you should go back to Thailand?
No, I didn't want to go back.
Things would have turned out badly if you did.
- I didn't want to go back. - And if you had...
If you look at celebrities who have caused quite a stir...
they usually stay in Thailand for a month or so but it's his home country.
- What are you talking about? - He could go back and visit his mother.
Did I say something wrong?
And also... I didn't want to see my parents at the time.
I didn't want to see them.
Because I felt so guilty.
But my parents flew over the day after the accident.
They stayed beside me.
What did your parents tell you?
'Acknowledge that you did something wrong.'
'Think about it a little more.'
'Muster your courage and do something good for others.'
'And turn this crisis into an opportunity.'
That's what they told me.
As a chance to mature?
'While you take time for self-examination, do something good for others.'
What was the hardest criticism to take?
The hardest one to take...
'You are in Korea as a foreigner.'
'And you do something terrible like this.'
'You should go back to Thailand.'
Some people said that.
I think it's because I am a foreigner.
And I am a TV personality in Korea who represents Thailand.
I think I have a huge responsibility because of that.
Because Thailand may get a bad reputation because of me.
And so...
I think I was disappointed in myself even more.
I felt so apologetic and so grateful to the band members.
Because they told the president that they wouldn't do music without me.
They said never without me.
So the agency wanted to...
Because we needed to release a new album.
'What do you want to do?'
'Do you want to make a unit of two or three of you excluding Nichkhun?'
But the band members said they'd never...
We had meetings about it for five days.
The president, JYP and the vice president were there.
We were preparing to release a new album in September.
We talked about what could be done to overcome the accident that took place.
For five days they suggested, 'Do you want to try this way? Or that way?'
Because a business needs to create profit.
They said, 'We need to continue so that all the effort we've put in won't go wasted.'
We replied, 'We won't do music without Nichkhun.'
Nichkhun is in some way the mascot of 2PM.
Before it happened, he did a lot of commercials.
I noticed what was happening to Nichkhun.
The news reported the accident.
The world is cold-hearted, you know?
The commercials that Nichkhun used to do...
Well, Nichkhun was no longer in them.
What did you think when that happened?
I just felt sorry that I caused it.
Things weren't working because of me.
I think the economic damage was pretty large, wasn't it?
We were supposed to release a new album in Korea, and then do an Asia tour.
When we did the tour, we were going to do concerts in Japan.
And then release another album.
We had plans for the next two years.
Everything about that plan had to be readjusted.
I think we might have lost a lot of money.
You might have lost astronomical amounts of money...
but the friendship grew. Shouldn't we wrap it up on that note?
[Wrap it up on that note?]
And that is what really happened.
Unless that's what happened, you can't stay and work together the way they do.
What paved the way for you to forgive yourself?
I stayed in the house for a month and a half.
I thought, 'I can't do this.'
'If I keep this up, I might go insane.'
So I told my manager, 'I would like to do something.'
So, we found something.
It's a child welfare facility for the disabled that's close to Korea University.
It was very tiring in the beginning... meeting people.
It was so distressing just to meet people.
Because it felt as if everyone was thinking, 'You did something wrong!'
- That's how you perceived. - That's how you felt.
But I felt so happy volunteering.
It seemed that they were enjoying every moment.
They gave me the gift of hope.
They were disabled but they didn't think that way at all.
When I looked at them play, cry and shout just like ordinary children, I thought...
'I should pick myself up.'
It was such a positive experience for me.
Also...
I felt that I was just a human, as well.
Because I'm well-known, people think, 'He should be perfect and make no mistakes.'
'He should have clear skin and be good,' and I have that image of myself too.
I even believed it myself.
'I have to be perfect.'
And now... I feel... I am not Nichkhun the celebrity.
I feel I've become just a person now.
That was very healing for me.
Other volunteers offered me a lot of advice.
The best one was...
'The accident that took place is the most valuable warning you could get from life.'
While it wasn't trivial, something so much worse could have happened.
We've been working since we debuted.
We've never been on a vacation.
- Focused on the future. - Yes, focused on the future.
And I think that...
because I never know when I won't be popular anymore.
I wanted to do as much as I could while I can.
Even when I felt tired, I pushed myself and asked
'Please schedule me for this and that.' I always said that.
I think it was a warning that I needed to slow down.
I was so busy moving forward, I couldn't see what was beside me or behind me.
It taught me to slow down and take a walk around.
That's how you learn and grow, right?
I admire Nichkhun's courage.
It's not easy to take that much criticism.
You took action.
You chose to face the critics.
It's not an easy thing to do.
Because when you stay home for so long, you kind of cave in.
When you cave in, you can't see what's out there.
It's very hard to move towards the light.
You courageously moved towards it and faced the critics.
[Hope you remember that courage and become even better 2PM...]
[You are the true senior at work when they treat you to dinner]
[When you're struggling, mind other people's business]
[When I forgive myself, others also forgive me]